Minutes of Weekly Meeting, 2013-12-02

Meeting called to order: 11:05 AM EST

1. Roll Call

Carl Walker
Ian McIntosh
Peter Horwood
Brian Erickson
Heiko Ehrenberg (joined 11:08)

Brad Van Treuren
Adam Ley
Patrick Au (for next three weeks)
Eric Cormack
Michele Portolan

2. Review and approve previous minutes:


  • Draft circulated 11/18/2013.
  • Eric noted two corrections, both near the end of 5a:
    • Now we are beginning to see BScan as an interface to other functions and features.
    • Ian thought that most of the other comments made by Adam were statements that required no further explanation.
  • Insufficient attendees to vote on approval.


  • Draft circulated 11/25/2013.
  • No corrections advised.
  • Insufficient attendees to vote on approval.

3. Review old action items

  • All: do we feel SJTAG is requiring a new test language to obtain the information needed for diagnostics or is STAPL/SVF sufficient? See also Gunnar's presentation, in particular the new information he'd be looking for in a test language (http://files.sjtag.org/Ericsson-Nov2006/STAPL-Ideas.pdf)
  • Harrison will attempt to come up with a table of use cases and their associated layer and what can be done at that layer. Ongoing.
  • Ian/All: Look for real world examples of boards that we could take through from board test to a system test implementation as a worked example case. Ongoing.
  • Ian - Add the previously discussed lists to the 'master' template. Ongoing.
    • Some sections need further expansion that may take time to develop.
  • All - Consider material for BTW: Either specific sub-topics related to our Templates or any other alternative subject we could present. COMPLETE.

4. Reminders

  • Consider Adam's three points (from the action from the first weekly meeting) and suggest what is preventing us from answering those questions:
  • Establish consensus on goals and constraints
  • What are we trying to achieve?
  • What restrictions are we faced with?
  • Forum thread for discussion: http://forums.sjtag.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=172

5. Discussion Topics

a. Material for BTW.

  • Ian wanted to make this a very brief meeting to go over the material for BTW.  An updated draft of the slide pack had been circulated on 11/27, but Ian had made some additions since then.
  • {Powerpoint presentation shared}
  • Note added in "Defining SJTAG" to introduce SoCs into the question of defining a system.
  • Slide added ("SJTAG vs JTAG") to illustrate some of the things that SJTAG might be bringing as value add over the conventional view of JTAG.  These were not intended to be declared facts, just potential items, to be used as talking points.
  • Colours in "SJTAG Visualisation" amended to improve legibility.
  • Slide added ("External to Embedded"): Slightly reworked version of slide used in past presentations to show that there are degreees to which control might be embedded.
  • Note added to final slide ("Discoveries") to comment that test might not be Go/NoGo as originally thought.

6. Key Takeaway for today's meeting

  • None.

7. Schedule next meeting

  • Next Meeting: December 9. Patrick, Adam expect to be absent.
  • December schedule:
    16 - Brad, Carl, Peter absent.
    23 - Tim, Carl, Peter, Ian absent. Meeting cancelled.

8. Any other business

  • None.

9. Review new action items

  • None.

10. Adjourn

Peter moved to adjourn at 11:33 AM EST, seconded by Carl.

Respectfully submitted, Ian McIntosh